Wampum

The mob is too mindless to know what it wants. It has effectively purged the Internet of Hillary supporters, but it has also exposed its own stunning lack of real life influence. Just who are those 53 to 55% of Democrats who keep voting for Hillary, anyway? They are impervious to the punishment aimed at them by all forms of progressive media. They sure aren't on the Internet.

I may or may not illustrate the larger issue: as recently as the time I met E and MB met in real life, I was relatively agnostic, but have since become so alienated by the thugs on the Internet, that I picked Hillary, and have spent weeks on the ground organizing for her. Sucks for the O'bloggers, I'm one of the dinosaurs who can rack up votes faster than they can type. I'm one of those allegedly angry feminists (or stupid hicks, or slow thinking Hispanics, or whatever elitist slur of the day is) who can out-organize them because I was doing this when certain of them were still Republicans.

So that's what it's about -- how you organize? You mean, similarly to using an organization that uses deception robo-calls, which is voter fraud, highly illegal and completely defies all logic in what the Democratic movement stands for, let alone what it means in contrast to Democracy. Shame on the Clinton supporters who engage in such things -- as it's been occurring for over 5 months. It has nothing to do with tactics on the part of Obama supporters to call people out on what's been happening -- it's very obviously, and simply, calling those tactics into question because they do not by any stretch of the imagination represent what the Democratic Party represents to this country.

Shall we remind everybody who brought-up Wright, and how absolutely distorted and devious it was to use it? Shall we remind each other of who had been the ones raising the race issue since Iowa -- alluding to there being some sort of nefarious 'thing' in his past? Shall we remind each other of what it means to follow the very rules of the DNC -- the rules in which you had more input to create, but now -- because it would not be in your favor -- make every attempt to overturn said rules. Shall we remind each other of the number of times Clinton supporters and organizations tied to the Clintons have sued district polling places in districts where their oppoenent gained momentum or have a leading edge?

You see, this is the problem with making any attempt to blame Obama supporters -- it's in the fact that any Democrat with a correct mind in judgement should see through such things as obvious, because it doesn't and will never represent the Democratic Party or the causes for which it has always stood for.

I was neutral like you for a time -- but -- when the pattern emerged (which began to manifest in Iowa with the abortion mailers that were absolute off) -- it became perfectly clear who I would support as a Democrat, as the candidate I support never deserved what they did by any stretch of the imagination.

If she thinks she'll win in the General with that additional baggage as a result of what they've done -- then perhaps you ought to consider reading some of the right wing blogs wherein they're already outlining how they'll use Wright against her, as it was so obvious what they did. And with a Party that's split down the middle as a result of all they've done, it will only cause those people to look at the other party as they'll be the ones smelling like a rose in that play.

It has nothing to do with tactics as much as it has to do with truth. Either you can continue to pursuade others that such truth doesn't exist -- and play this little game with the lives of other Democrats, or begin to come to turns that these things are not acceptable to most Democrats as well.

They did this to themselves, in other words. I can't help that, just as much as you can't help that. But -- they most certainly could have helped themselves if only they didn't do the things they've been doing all along. The pattern was obvious from day one, and to sit here and take it goes against everything our Democracy stands for.

Daniel,

We distinguish between what bloggers who are swept up in a movement do to other bloggers who are not, and what campaigns do. As bloggers, we're not running campaigns, and when we have run campaigns, we haven't used bloggers to message for us. They're far too unreliable.

So, whatever the truth value is of your claims, which are about campaigns, MB's post was about Digby being targeted -- not by a campaign.

I like your blog's technical content btw.