Minute 1: Fox graphics flashes confuse producers, who loose track of who's on-camera.
Peter Jennings is taking a minute for a moment of complexity, and with each succeeding question manages to run the current candidate against the answer of the previous candidate.
- Kerry manages to mention that he supported cutting capital-gains.
- Dean manages to blame/attribute the shriek to his kids-in-need.
- Lieberman manages to mumble.
Tom Mumble-Creature asks really long self-indulgent questions.
- Clark manages to mention that there are non-Democrats out there.
- Kucinich manages to take control of the question, standing out completely from the prior Punditory-onanism and gets the only applause thus far.
- Edwards gets a clear response on the two votes (initial authorization and 87bil suplementary), and applause.
- Sharpton states the Sharpton Doctrine, aid, development, UN.
Round 2
- Kerry does not go for the draft.
- Lieberman recycled Edwards health care for children up to age 25.
- Kucinich tried to recover from having voted for NCLB, I didn't know that.
- Dean manages to-hoot-is-human and he-means-what-he-means, against NCLB, against Iraq.
- Clark sort of muddles about on "guarantee".
- Edwards manages to humanize the Axis of Islam, and manages to mention foreign "people".
- Sharpton gets the ignorant person-of-color question -- his Federal Reserve Board appointment, and manages to make a memorable moment of humor, Dean's pain at spending so much for 18%, but missed the opportunity to talk about red-lining and economic racism. Peter Jennings when prepared can ask a sharper question than Al Sharpton can answer off-the-cuff. Score that Whites 1, Blacks 0.
- Kerry manages to turn medal-throw-away into the VFW-in-the-Mall-vs-Nixon and ties DeLay to Nixon.
- Lieberman manages to get applause on an Iraq question, whacks Halliburton.
- Kucinich manages to run an attractive domestic shopping list as an alternative to pentagon waste, and any balanced budge date to how deep the hole Bush digs.
- Clark manages to defend Michael Moore's 1st Amendment right to call W a deserter and run a list of other endorsees.
- Edwards manages to endorse Kerry's position on the "Defense of Marriage" bill, and segue to GLTG people and respect.
- Dean declined to go beyond civil-unions, leaving everything else JRE mentioned, manages to mention that he's a Doctor and something about health care.
- Sharpton manages to turn gay rights into human rights, and the dangers of leaving civil rights in the hands of states.
- Dean manages to distinguish his fiscal conservate and gun rights record from the mainstream of the party, and reference Bush, quotas, and a one-way bus ticket.
- Kerry manages to fill a minute on social values that I can't summarize (type behind is a problem)
- Lieberman manages to talk about talking about values and faith and poverty and values, and blows Peter Jennings away, nice touch JL!
- Clark manages to to mention former attorney general john ashcroft as a witness on the abuses of the sneak-and-peak bits of the patriot act. the audience got the joke.
- Kucinich manages to keep on message, UN in, US out, and his friendship with John Edwards for delegates in Iowa.
- Edwards manages to defeat Jesse Helms and the use of AK-47s for hunting. Extend the Brady Bill, close the gun show loop-hole, trigger-locks, and retain the 2nd Amendment.
- Sharpton manages to decline to become Republican to defeat Republicans and asked Kucinich also for delegate courtesy in SC.
Round 3
- Kerry manages to advocate banning MBTE (for those outside of New England, see Erin Brockovich).
- Lieberman manages to mention drugs and Canada.
- Sharpton manages to blop about abit before starting an energy-independence rap. (Lead paint is a two word answer. Heavy metals. Urban Asthma. missed opportunities)
- Dean manages to mention that Al Q and WMD weren't in Iraq, that Joe, John, and John voted to send 500 troops to die and thousands to be wounded.
- Lieberman rebuts, John and John don't bother.
- Clark and Axion a minute of clarification.
- Edwards mentions that 32% of Iowa thinks he's old enough to drive and tall enough to reach the steering wheel, and takes that to lobbyists, insiders, and disclosure, and gets an extended minute.
- Sharpton manages better on Iran than on the Federal Reserve.
- Kerry manages to to turn a small business question into a postive reference to busta caps and the Hollins endorse in SC and the RNC's pending air-war.
- Lieberman manages to mention that he lives in Manchester.
- Lieberman manages to wring humor out of the favorite mark on the wall (calendar), the NH date.
- Clark manages to take a sculpted moment of humor (when did you notice you were a Democrat), and since the journal was foreign, the lady is dead (london, war approval essay).
- Edwards manages to cut off a Defense of Fucksage Act question and run a minute on the 35 million Americans living in poverty.
[John slapped Brit Hume down. A moment of script-broken huddle by the Vixens.]
- Kucinich manages to stay on message and cancel NAFTA and the WTO, and slap down the Vixens too.
- Dean (the Vixen goes on for 30 seconds about his relative in the audience from New Jersey) and does something surprising, he points to John Edwards slap-aside of the nuisance question DMA for poverty and education
- Sharpton manages to mention that cop-killings doesn't make guilty all the non-guilty facing execution due to pervasive prosecutorial error.
- Dean manages a minute of recitation, showing that he leads with his head, if he'd lead with his heart he'd have said something memorable, or at least heart-felt.
- Kerry manages to give the war vote question well in one minute. He does well in the follow-up minute, and gets in the reckless, inept, ideological line.
- Lieberman a final minute that wasn't sumarizable.
The Vixens took up just under half the wall-clock time with their artsy questions. Very boring. The Vixens are dumb. This is the worst debate we've seen (I don't think we've missed any either). The other bad one was also a Fox debate, the one in WDC that Sharpton offered to provide security.
JRE got the best of the Vixens, and its Vixens all the way down from now to November.
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